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Vanguard Avatars are wrong #100

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MickHardins opened this issue Dec 15, 2015 · 5 comments
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Vanguard Avatars are wrong #100

MickHardins opened this issue Dec 15, 2015 · 5 comments
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@MickHardins
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Every avatar (eg Sliver Queen Avatar ) in the Vanguard set has the type set to "Vanguarg" instead of Avatar(i think because they're wrong on gatherer too). Some of them have wrong hand/life modifiers(eg goblin warchief avatar) and wrong flavour(eg Sliver Queen Avatar). I think that also the name is wrong: it should be Sliver queen instead of Sliver queen avatar.

Some links:

Sliver Queen on gatherer:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?printed=true&multiverseid=201075

Sliver Queen on magiccards.info :
http://magiccards.info/extra/other/vanguard-mtgo-2/sliver-queen.html

Squee, Goblin Nabob on gatherer:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=182293

Squee, Goblin Nabob on magiccards.info :
http://magiccards.info/extra/other/vanguard-mtgo-2/squee-goblin-nabob.html

I haven't checked them all but i suspect they're all wrong.

@MickHardins
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@lsmoura Have you already checked this bug? :)

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lsmoura commented Jan 20, 2016

Not really...

Let's see if I understand... There is no "Avatar" names in the Avatar cards?

@MickHardins
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Sliver queen on gatherer:

Name: Sliver queen avatar
type : vanguard

This doesn't match data printed on cards, it should be:

Name: Sliver Queen
type: vanguard avatar

I suspect they're all wrong although i haven't checked them all, some of them have also wrong hand/life modifier. To understand better, look at the links i provided.
Magiccards.info has the correct images, unfortunately gatherer has different images(maybe generated?) and data from gatherer differs even from their own images.

If still not clear let me know and i'll try to provide a more complete sets of examples!

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fenhl commented Feb 6, 2017

The names are correct. The “Avatar” is part of the name of the cards, to disambiguate from regular cards (e.g. Sliver Queen vs. Sliver Queen Avatar). They don't appear on the printed/rendered card since the card frame and type line already conveys that it's an avatar.

The card type vanguard is also correct, since that's how they are referred to in the Comprehensive Rules.

However, the Oracle text on some of them is outdated, e.g. Momir Vig, Simic Visionary Avatar hasn't been updated to use create.

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silasary commented Mar 9, 2017

It's worth noting that Gatherer also credits UDON Entertainment for most of the Vanguard artist credits, rather than listing the individual artist. (yay outsourcing)

I'm not sure what the correct thing to do with the artist credits is, but I figured that it should be mentioned.

@gwax gwax modified the milestones: 3.11, 3.12 Jul 23, 2017
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