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have a standard set of core services for distros to use #245

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q66 opened this issue Sep 13, 2023 · 5 comments
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have a standard set of core services for distros to use #245

q66 opened this issue Sep 13, 2023 · 5 comments

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@q66
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q66 commented Sep 13, 2023

dinit comes with a sample service set that can technically result in a bootable system, but it hardly makes full use of dinit's potential nor it provides something that would be useful as a reasonable base for all dinit-using distros to share

that means everybody is sort of doing their own thing, which means software upstreams will not be able to ship distro-independent service files like they can with systemd, which is bad for serious adoption

i've been meaning to make my dinit-chimera https://github.com/chimera-linux/dinit-chimera largely reusable, and i believe it's currently the most advanced core service set that exists for dinit; but it's downstream regardless (and currently it makes some assumptions that might not be viable for everybody, but that will change, the most notable thing right now is usage of systemd-tmpfiles but i plan to have a custom helper come with it later instead), so i wonder if we could put some effort into making a common system? not a mandatory one, but at very least something officially recommended for potential adopters, so that software has something specific to target

@davmac314
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Sounds like a great idea to me. We can standardise the set of base services (particularly targets) that can be relied on to be available (eg. the names you have currently for chimera as per link above) and offer your current set as an example implementation, for example.

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q66 commented Sep 13, 2023

having some names available would be a good baseline at least, though sooner or later some things may have to rely on service-manager-related infrastructure beyond dependencies, but we'll see i guess...

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yeah, the tmpfiles issue is a good example of that. Let's see if anything else comes up. The service names is a good baseline as you say, we can start with that and build on it as necessary.

@mohamad-supangat
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see https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/Dinit and https://github.com/mohamad-supangat/dinit.d

who knows will help

@adamjonn
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i second that, rather the moving to Artix rather remove systemd in arch and have a quickest boot possible into a xinit session.
gonna give it a stab some very good starters above, but a very bare minimal boot setup into a xsession would be very handy right handy right now rather then hacking systemd

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